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Perhaps a solution to pistons...

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Lack of server loyalty doesn't necessarily imply lack of trustworthiness. You can play elsewhere and still respect people in all servers. But, I agree with Yennage; this would probably cause a lot of strife.
While what you say is true in some case, lack of loyalty to the server can also cause a person to grief easier because he doesn't have to either live with the consequences or have to care about them because he didn't truly care about the server in the first place.

What I'm saying is that if someone isn't loyal to the server they have less to restrain them (mentally) from griefing on the server, and as a result of that, getting banned, because they can switch to another server just as easily.
 
why not to donators..... the more trusted ones...... like .... the ones spending lots of money on this server?.....not just the ones who spend 40+ dollars.... more like .... 100? and they also have to have been here a long time.... basicly the opposite of me... except im mostly trusted .... i have a few screw ups..... but that isnt my point....

people who were here years ago paid lots for the server and deserve pistons.
 
Because you're still dealing with the trust issue at this point coolio . If we decide to try certain people over other people some people are going To be insulted because we didn't feel that there were trustworthy.

As for people who have donated, We have had to ban at least 15 people who have donated. Just because they have donated doesn't mean that there are trustworthy person, it just means that they're willing to cough up a bit of dough so that they can get a couple caps.
 
Because you're still dealing with the trust issue at this point coolio . If we decide to try certain people over other people some people are going To be insulted because we didn't feel that there were trustworthy.

As for people who have donated, We have had to ban at least 15 people who have donated. Just because they have donated doesn't mean that there are trustworthy person, it just means that they're willing to cough up a bit of dough so that they can get a couple caps.

I heard there was a fix... Or was this a false statement?
 
I heard there was a fix... Or was this a false statement?

The dupe bug was fixed in 1.0.0 but was never really much of a problem because it could be fixed with plugins.
The problem was the logging of blocks moved by pistons, but it's not really much of a problem. More news to come in an official MCA update post.
 
Uhm, the fact that the it doesn't log piston activity is a problem. What if someone totally griefs your build? No rollback.
 
Uhm, the fact that the it doesn't log piston activity is a problem. What if someone totally griefs your build? No rollback.

if someone goes through the entire word to greif an entire build with pistons needs to get a life. Good Work MCA Admins on working on the update. Appreciate it.
 
How about we make it so that pistons can't be crafted, just like TNT and Flint & Steels, and can only be bought for a large sum of caps. That way, only people who really need them and are willing to raise money to use them, can use them. Also, this way random people who log on just to grief can't do it unless they actually go get a land claim and go mine to get the money. Be honest: Who's gonna go to all that trouble and wait several days for their land claim, just so they can move a few blocks around to bug somebody? I'm not sure how to fix the issue of using other people's pistons, but in theory if the people who have pistons in their builds cover the switches up with LWC chests or something so that only those who have the rights to break it can use the pistons, then it might work, and we wouldn't even need plugins to do it (other than making pistons uncraftable). Hope this works - I put a lot of thought into it!
 
How about we make it so that pistons can't be crafted, just like TNT and Flint & Steels, and can only be bought for a large sum of caps. That way, only people who really need them and are willing to raise money to use them, can use them. Also, this way random people who log on just to grief can't do it unless they actually go get a land claim and go mine to get the money. Be honest: Who's gonna go to all that trouble and wait several days for their land claim, just so they can move a few blocks around to bug somebody? I'm not sure how to fix the issue of using other people's pistons, but in theory if the people who have pistons in their builds cover the switches up with LWC chests or something so that only those who have the rights to break it can use the pistons, then it might work, and we wouldn't even need plugins to do it (other than making pistons uncraftable). Hope this works - I put a lot of thought into it!

I'll be honest, it seems alot more trouble than it's worth to do it this way. Theres no reason that you NEED pistons. Yeah, there nice to have, but with that logic why not just have TNT and fire available that way?
 
How about we make it so that pistons can't be crafted, just like TNT and Flint & Steels, and can only be bought for a large sum of caps. That way, only people who really need them and are willing to raise money to use them, can use them. Also, this way random people who log on just to grief can't do it unless they actually go get a land claim and go mine to get the money. Be honest: Who's gonna go to all that trouble and wait several days for their land claim, just so they can move a few blocks around to bug somebody? I'm not sure how to fix the issue of using other people's pistons, but in theory if the people who have pistons in their builds cover the switches up with LWC chests or something so that only those who have the rights to break it can use the pistons, then it might work, and we wouldn't even need plugins to do it (other than making pistons uncraftable). Hope this works - I put a lot of thought into it!

You can craft TNT, flint and steel. The server admins would need another plugin to disable the crafting lol.
 
so to wrap up untill pistons can be rolled back or tracked they will not be on this server.

no exceptions, no special privaliges.

topic closed its getting out of hand now.
 
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