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razyelgore

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New World

I know we all done a lot of work on this map but i think its fare for the new people for it to get reset so the economy can be good and that people and i wont give name don't have stacks of diamonds blokes from the chest bug (now fixed). So what do you guys think about my idea
 
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I think raz has a good idea rather than reset the server back why don't we make a new world?

and have another tnt tuesday?
 
Having a new map not only help the server economy but allow helps when people pick there lands so we don't argue and the dubing bug got fixed so what you mine and what you grow its yours
 
humm I'm not sure about this... cause there is a lot of project that would be lost...
I mean I could go around note all the main ones and bring them over... onto the new map
it would be lots of work

but if we do go in this direction then the people who have been on like myself for the past few months or weeks that have been working hard on a new area well we will want to pretty much leave...

I'm ok with a reset if the new game is not compatible with the old map but if there has to be a reset just cause of old style dubing that's something that can be fixed in a per case scenario. why should every one get burned?

raz you've been on the longest and you said it yourself that you don't like all the dub that you've seen but the history of the server like all of the work is the reason why some of the new members want to stick around and come in. if you take that away all of that history will be gone.

and fluf you just got on so for you there is not many project that would be lost. and I understand that totally it would make it equal for you but I think part of the fun when I came in is trying to make my area fit with every one elses.

I can see the points but I personally would be kinda miffed for putting all that work and well having it reset " just cause " would prob piss me off.

If we are going in this direction then lets think of a way to merge the old map with the new world. if not then keep it this way. and fix the issues that you guys have taken ie: dubing and fix that case by case
 
If that is possible that will be gr8 but still I am one of the older players on the server, and for a good game-play i will sacrifice my projects I can always rebuild em maybe even with your help. I know some people will not want to do this but if there is a way to save some of the buildings and reset trunks and player inventory that is gr8 but there are still places and people who abused the chest bug (Capsule Corp) and those will have to be deleted.
 
agreed. it could be interesting if we take the time... maybe this will open up the discussion about it and find something that makes every one happy. any one else has any thoughts?
 
I am completely against this. The world is huge and deep, and there is room for everyone.

If we get to the point where servers can be linked (and inventory is conserved over portals), we might be able to run a secondary world for waht ever purposes. But nuking everything and starting over? Not with all the work that's been done already. This is supposed to be the "Best Minecraft Server", and one of the number one complaints people have about minecraft servers is getting the world nuked and all their hard work goes away. Not my definition of Best.

As it pertains to the situation with duping and the economy, it is what it is. More importantly, what the hell are they going to do with all those diamonds? If they flood the bank with diamond, I'll take out rarity out of the equation of diamonds, and that will cause diamond value to drop out the bottom. Then, I'll have to ask Jangles to compensate by taking Diamond tools out of the builders kit. That will force people to start using their diamond for tools. Quite simply, if you dupe, and I detect it, you'll end up screwing everyone.
 
yup I'm with edge on this one... we could always move the spawn if we feel like having some breathing room... thats the only thing I could think of.
 
Edge what your saying fuck it let it the way it is i am not talking just about diamonds i am talking about all i seen chests and (killed people) who had stakes that were dubbed just in case the beta came and you think you can manage that economy. As for the new people who recently joined well they will just have to work 2x as hard just to make a project then the people who were "prepared"
BTW lofp is with everyone, just pick a side man
 
no I'm not with every one I'm with the side that says fix the dubing per case, and edge just pointed out that there is already a system setup for that.

I agreed with you that if we went with a new world that bringing in certain landmarks was a great idea.

what I'm saying is that there is no "sides"

its not black and white.

if you feel that something is unfair then lets look into it but asking every one to reset that's not my stance. asking every thing to stay the same way is not my choice eider. both options aren't right.

so get it straight: I don't need to pick a side.

We should be able to find something that makes every one happy.

if its possible with some compromise.
 
Thanks for everyone's input.

Reseting the world is simply out of the question. It is possible to save parts of the world to restore in a new world, but I'd rather increase the size of the map and use a new spawn. The world is technically infinite so there's no reason to throw out our work.

There are options to revert chunks back to their original state. This can certainly be consider for stuff that doesn't make sense in our world.

Let's change spawn. What do you think? How about somewhere around the logo?
 
The idea of All inventory and chests to be cleaned if its possible there is no other way of doing this without making a new map, as i sayed before its not just diamonds its a lot of stuff, and when the market is flooded there will be no point of having any economy.Can the server show just how many cubes of diamond gold pumpkins and any other we have right now?
 
It seems razy your more talking about the problem of dubing and I agree that could be a problem lets focus on that and try to fix your concern about this.


As for jangles question, moving the spawn, I don't mind but I think some where deserted would be better not to far from the current so that they can quickly go to it and look at the old stuff but not near any ones current area. cause in a matter of weeks that area will be built like crazy and it be smart to make it a different spot. let some of the new builders a spawn point to create and so on. I'll look at the map and see what I would suggest.
 
OK boxes in red is where I think new spawn should be... it will bring the new people to the bank most don't even know where it is. as well as have a clear area to work with. and then we can make some roads that go to old spawn.

bottom left: is the best option its between old spawn and bank and would have the most hills. def a different look compared to the current spawn.

Far left: is close to the sky way so that could be a plus

top left: not as good

top right: could be cool to be across the shores of the bank.

far right: same as top right but further away

bottom right: would be very similar to the current spawn with sand and water.

let me know your thoughts.

newspawn.jpg
 
Raz, you're right, I'm concerned that players dupping have inventory stashed. I haven't looked at the server side inventory yet. That should solve our problems.

If people have stashed chests and start using the items, player stats won't add up. If there's every a question that a player is cheating the system, whether it's using dupped blocks to build or trade, we can run inventory reports on the player and compare with the actual mined blocks.

Lofp, good work, lets get some input from everyone and we'll move forward from there.
 
if your cool with the general area I can make a new post and have numbers on each box and people can vote in... up to you jangles.
 
There is a problem/bug with the Block Stats first it does not slow placed in gold bloks or in iron and it does not show at all clay
 
I like the idea of the new spawn point!

I agree with loft that the best new spawn point would be the bottom left.
 
raz, I haven't added clay yet. I left some room for those items. And the last time I tried to get gold blocks placed it wasn't returning anything :(. I hope I can get that fixed. Let's chat block stats in player stats thread.

I like the bottom left too. It starts you off with surroundings and development there will connect up nice.
 
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