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SM or Survival Manager

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minimina38

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This would be a person who would watch over survival as an RM watches over build. This person would make resolve some problems that are related to survival so the survival players wouldnt come straight to the OP's and MOD's for help. Please comment on my post and talk to me if you think that this is a good idea thanks for your time.
 
rm's can handle anything mods + can. they just cant ban. they can help you out when needed. remember the staff isnt limited to build world as a priority. all staff watches over all worlds.
 
I think the problem comes from the fact that we need a dedicated mod for survival.

that is not playing in it. (pvp)

and I'm starting to feel that its going to be needed.

there is to much disconnect from staff to pvp.
 
What would this PvP Mod do? What would be different from the staff we have now? (Just curious)
 
I get what lofp is saying. Most of the staff are in factions and that could be cause biased decisions. A moderator that takes care of the PVP world and is not in a faction would be great.
 
as well as most mods are really busy with other things or just not really in the mind set for pvp. would be nice to have some one that can focus on that and make sure that people that are playing pvp feel that that person is a voice for them.

still not 100% and eventually this will become a chat that will be mod+ only but thought it should be said in public.
 
hah nice astra read my mind. anyways some mods as is now arent in factions. and what difference would this mod make if hes not connected to any factions and or the gameplay. what can he really do for a voice?

all players are encouraged to talk with the staff and voice there opinions. im open for all disscussion on improvement of pvp somehow. but i dont think a new mod for a specific world is needed. what would there be to moderate? greifing.. nope.... flyhacking.... thats a given on all worlds.... xray... thats everyone.... what does this mod do that is different?
 
Alot of users have many complaints and most of us dont have the time or even the understanding or (non bias opinion) to take care of it.

As well as many users feel that the mods are so involved in there own projects that pvp is usually left behind, I'm first on that list since I really dont pay attention to pvp.

I'm not saying that this is the prefect solution. I'm saying there is a problem and it needs to be fixed.

To go about with this conversation assuming that there is not a problem with pvp is not right.

There is combat logging.

Factions disputes.

Bulling.

Alot of the new users come from pvp and are usually the youngest.

This makes it even more important that we should have some one make sure that things are 100% good in that area.

I'm just saying some one who's focused in that area would help us as a server not just for policing but also for new features and making them feel less alienated from the rest of us.


but like I said in my last post this convo should start moving to mod + since its a staff choice.
 
Well honestly all the mods should be doing those things. We've all pvp'd and understand what's going on. And I'm sure the current staff knows how to handle every one of those scenarios. The idea of an SM, though, makes sense. Somebody who's more interested in pvpve and its aspects rather than building. I don't know how we could implement it, but more help is always helpful. :P
 
As a staff member, I could glance over to PvP and PvE once in a while.

I support the idea of a SM, yet it raises many questions:

Rank wise, where would they be in the hierarchy? What special commands would they have that S / RMs have not?

Would it be a mod that refrains from joining factions, and is the impartial judge?
What would there be to judge?

Can jailing really stop combat logging? Is a dedicated pvp mod going to change anything about it?
I've heard from Benjbear that combat logging was less effective these days, any news on that?

What kind of faction disputes are we talking about?
Afaik, PvP is quite lethargic outside of the safezone.
 
I think survival should be thought of as a region, so the person should be called a regional manager and it probably doesn't matter if the person is in a faction or not as long as he can be trusted. just my opinion:P
 
they gotta be trusted and have had pvp experience on our server so they know what people do but i would like to see them actually watch some pvp fights once and a while because not everybody has recording programs and Ive been told that screenshots are not as reliable as video
 
If this idea were to be implemented, then I think that this person should have PvP disabled for them, so they can travel the world without fearing being killed and stuff. This person could also be the voice of the PvP world. I know they're already encouraged to talk to all the staff and everything, but this could help. This person could listen to all the PvP people, and take their suggestions and feedback to the rest of the staff to improve that world.
 
Alright so lets see
In my opinion, this idea doesn't make sense.
so theres gonna be a guy in pvp, who has to be in pvp to watch over everything so nothing wrong happens, but is not allowed to pvp.
What the heck would he do then, just sit and watch? Lemme tell you, that will be very counterproductive.
What sort of powers would this person wield that could help him, I mean God mode is understandable, but what else?
There can always be excuses for combat logging, theres enough lag on the server that sometimes it actually isn't combat logging, but there is no way to be certain.
Disputes between people and factions are bound to rise, its pvp, isnt it meant to be a place to fight?
If you have a problem with someone, go fight him, if you dont like that faction, go to war.
And as far as maintaining the decorum of the survival world, the staff handle it very nicely.
Many of us make regular rounds of pvp just to check, including myself and jeff, and I've seen many others actively participate when things are going bad.
 
Well God mode is essentially what I was suggesting, but that's beside the point. The way I see this is that it's more for the meaning behind it than the actual implications. This rank wouldn't be different from the current Mod rank. The only thing different is the meaning behind it. PvP isn't the main focus on this server, so it gets looked past and ignored by some, if not most, of the staff. You're right in saying that some of us make rounds, and in the end we all monitor chat and such, no matter what world. That being said, not all staff treat PvP the same. Some are for it, some are even against it. What this rank would do is give the PvPers someone to come to. They could go to this person, and then that person could pass it along to the rest of the staff, and take the necessary actions. This would make those Minecrafters feel more heard, and more a part of the MCA community. Like I said earlier, it would essentially be a Mod rank, and the only difference would be that they are the voice for everyone in PvP. All issues, suggestions, ets., would pass through them, and get filtered through to the rest of the staff.

All that being said, this is just an idea, and one that the current mods+ will have to discus.
 
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